I had a bit of an epiphany last night while re-reading TQ. The word 'Kudarung' has always niggled at me, you know the feeling, as if it should mean something to you, but you can never quite remember what it is. Anyway, last night I worked it all out! (At least, I hope I did...if Tammy meant to do this, then she's extra-super special, if not...well it's a damn lucky coincidence.)

Kuda = 'Horse' in Indonesian
Bu*rung* = 'Bird' in Indonesian

Has anyone else noticed this? Or am I making a fool of myself by repeating a useless fact that everybody already knows?

I didn't know. And I just checked with my dad (who's Indonesian). Both translations are correct, just to add weight to what you said.

Edit: Typo monster came and played with my post.

~Steph~

:D

Tammy

“No person is your friend who demands your silence.”
Alice Walker

that's so cool! thanks for finding that out!

27/female/Toronto

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your "Mr. Prongs" thing brout trear to my eyes it's so said what happened

edit: sorry i can't spell

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~Steph~

I never noticed that before, thanks for bringing it up. That was very insightful of you

As if Tammy is good enough with the English language, she has to go showing off in other languages as well. Very cool point, though. I never would have known that.

"I am too excellent to be full of myself." ~Tamora Pierce
"It will be a lovely tale," Aly replied, her voice sweet. "Some parts may even be true."
Fesgao: "I wonder what happens now. Will your father spank you for playing with the neighbors?

Yet another point to Tammy's awesomeness.

That's ... what? Three thousand two hundred and forty seven now?

LIVE TO BE RANDOM!!

"I am too excellent to be full of myself." - Tammy

  

I could have sworn we were up to three thousand two hundred and forty nine...

Three thousand two hundred and forty nine *cubed*, of course.

No, no, no--I just have lots of good dictionaries!

Tammy

“No person is your friend who demands your silence.”
Alice Walker

Well I certinly didn't know it.
that's petty cool how you found that out.

I think Rowling does some things like that, too.

she still has nothing on Tammy, though!



Tianna:-)



I too believe in faries!

Yummy kudos for you for finding that out!! I just always liked the word but never thought about it. Kudarung. Just kinda rolls of the tounge, ya know? Anyways kudos for Tammy too, for being so intelligent!


Alanna: There are always some who dislike you. But that's life.

rowling uses latin..... expectopatronum or however the heck it's spellled means i expect a patronum. patronum is a protecter or something along those lines... i'm learning latin incase you can't tell....

but i agree TAMMY IS SSSSOOOO MUCH BETTTER THAN HER!!!!!!!!
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Very cool.

-sahara

I hadn't noticed, but that would be because I don't happen to speak Indonesian.

I DID notice a while ago, in this page-a-day calendar I had last year that gives you word origins, that the word Copper was derived from the word Kyprin, or something close to that - I can't remember, and I'm too lazy to go find the page it was on. I thought that was really cool.

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This is from the Oxford English Dictionary.

Copper. n.

I could have my pronunciation wrong, but knowing how some other Greek to Roman translations have gone Cyprian could be the same as Kyprin. Just some food for thought.

"I am too excellent to be full of myself." ~Tamora Pierce
"It will be a lovely tale," Aly replied, her voice sweet. "Some parts may even be true."
Fesgao: "I wonder what happens now. Will your father spank you for playing with the neighbors?

Hm, maybe I'm really stupid, and everyone knew this before, but...
Okay, so I assume you all know Mithros, right? Well, reading the Da Vinci Code, there seems to have been a pre-Chrsitian god named Mithras. Pretty cool...

yup that's true, roman god(they stole him from the persians I believe) and he loved to kill cows and was a warrior type guy, what is mithros in chage of again?

rahel

oh, Mithros is a total knock of of Mithras, who was also a sun god. Just like the Great Mother Goddess is the three-fold Goddess of pagan religions. Read Mists of Avalon and the Maiden, Mother and Hag are all in there. It's not so much that tammy's ripping them off, and more like she's taking examples of plausible, real-world religions and putting them in her books.

I believe Mynoss and Shakith are also similar to real-world god names... not entirely sure. perhaps egyptian? perhaps not.

And I can see gods like Kidunka the World Snake coming from other cultures' creation myths. For example, some earth North American myths involve the world starting on the back of a turtle and such.

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There's the Indigenous Australian 'Rainbow Serpent' too. That’s a bit like the 'World Snake'.

Edited to add original message quote:
>>Copper. n.
I could have my pronunciation wrong, but knowing how some other Greek to Roman translations have gone Cyprian could be the same as Kyprin. Just some food for thought.<<


It's from the Greek--kypros. It's also the original name of the island of Cyprus, which was famous as a source of raw copper.

Like I say so often, I really dislike making things up when I can just steal from the real world!

Tammy

“No person is your friend who demands your silence.”
Alice Walker

I've been learning Indonesian for nine years and I didn't notice. Shame on me.

Fun times,
Julia

you know this is not fair... there are to many languages I don't know, and as this proves I *need* to know them all

*runs off to buy indonesian for dummies language trainer*


rahel

Ooh, be careful. Indonesian is EVIL!

No, Indonesian teachers are evil.

Fun times,
Julia

oh well I still have so many languages to go, indonesian is now 5th on "the list" right behind polish and there are a lot of positively evil languages on that list indonesian will be cool... one day...

rahel

The girl with the Indonesian dad is lurking here.

Must admit that dad can e pretty evil from time to time. Like when he assaults my ears with his 'singing'.

~Steph~

You have an Indonesian dad? I think you are RELATED TO ME.

(actually, my dad is American but grew up in Jakarta. Shhh.)


And the kudarung thing is so cool. Just think, I have a walking Indonesian dictionary here at home and I never thought to check any of the words in TQ!


Edit: Misspellation.

Indonesian Chinese, actually. I'm Malaysian Chinese, like my mum.

~Steph~

Ooh, I went to Malaysia a few months ago. Random. Sorry.

Fun times,
Julia

Which part of Malaysia?

~Steph~

Sarawak.

Fun times,
Julia

I come from Perak. My friend comes from Sarawak, though. Never been there myself.

~Steph~

That is so neat! It seems like a lot of her names are derivatives from other languages but that one is particularly good. Great job of thinking of it!

thats so cool! nah i didn't know that before. interesting. tammy researches stuff beforehand then eh?

I never would've got that. The best I ever did was to discover that Hoshi/ko means star in Japanese as well as in Yamani.

*~.~*Jess*~.~*




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'In all our journeys we are only ever going home'

>>tammy researches stuff beforehand then eh?

Beforehand, during . . .

The Copper Isles and Indonesia made me crazy, because Indonesia is a mix of over fifty languages and cultures. (Sorry, Indonesian friends, but you yourselves were saying what a bear the language is.) To pull together a culture for the Isles I got architecture and tourist books for nearly every country from Myanmar to Papua New Guinea to have enough pictures to describe things from, tropical garden books and tropical house books just for the pictures of houses in Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore, three new cookbooks, a fat new book of South Pacific island people names in addition to the 22 baby name books I already have . . . At least I already had the maps (I pull place and last names out of little-known place names on detailed maps), the phrase books and dictionaries, the wildlife books, and the clothes books.

The one good thing about CIRCLE REFORGED is that I still have the stuff I used to create the Namornese culture for COLD FIRE!

Tammy

“No person is your friend who demands your silence.”
Alice Walker

Clothes... I remember hating my baju kurung. I kept tripping over the skirt. I prefer my Chinese costume, mainly because my mum allows me to wear trousers.

~Steph~

...

Why won't she use Latin refrences so I'll actually understand these subtle hint/clue/things?



*does not speak Indonesian in the least little bit*

~*Moony*~

  

'Cause I don't like Latin

Tammy

“No person is your friend who demands your silence.”
Alice Walker

ooh ohh I think I'll have to hurt you if you said that again... how can one not just love latin?... oh well what about german, french, dutch...? I mean *I* wan't to understand things too... (without having to learn every single language there is first)

rahel

Ooh. I'd forgotten about that. I knew horse, but never got around to looking up the second half.

I was proud of myself, because I knew all of the Japanese (Yamani) names in PotS. Tammy, you do steal a lot of languages!

Kachi

It's your life and it's no one else's, sweetheart
Don't let someone put you in a box.

  

Not stealing. Liberating.

Tammy

“No person is your friend who demands your silence.”
Alice Walker

Cool.

Oh dear.... lol. Because I say the same thing. I "liberated" my dad's Manhatten Transfer CD (but shh, because he'll kill me if he figures that out) and also my mom's BareNakedLadies cd... and one of her classical CDs...

She didn't think that liberating was much different from stealing, no matter how I sliced it. You win some you lose some, eh?

~Zoë

ë = ALT+0235 (numpad)

cool

"'It's as sophisticated as a blueberry,' retorted Alanna" -TQ