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Tamora PierceTue Apr-12-05 05:04 PM
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#54180, "New reference question"


  

          

Do I say anywhere--I think it would be in the Alanna books--when the Contés ascended to the throne? Even a rough number of centuries ago would be useful.

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RE: New reference question, princessteggo, Apr 12th 2005, #1
RE: New reference question, daughter_of_moon_ocean, Apr 12th 2005, #2
RE: New reference question, DanaR, Apr 12th 2005, #3
RE: New reference question, slimtree, Apr 12th 2005, #4
RE: New reference question, Insanitys Pages, Apr 12th 2005, #5
RE: New reference question, Niki, Apr 12th 2005, #6
RE: New reference question, stupid fat hobbit, Apr 12th 2005, #7
RE: New reference question, diamondflame, Apr 13th 2005, #8
      RE: New reference question, Firecat89, Apr 13th 2005, #9
           RE: New reference question, Tamora Pierce, Apr 13th 2005, #10
                RE: New reference question, rahel00ch, Apr 13th 2005, #11
                     RE: New reference question, moonlightrider, Apr 13th 2005, #12
RE: New reference question, Wild Child, Apr 13th 2005, #13
RE: New reference question, Bridgetbabii033, May 08th 2005, #14

princessteggoTue Apr-12-05 05:38 PM
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#54182, "RE: New reference question"
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hmmm... I don't recall ever reading anything like that.


  

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daughter_of_moon_oceanTue Apr-12-05 06:09 PM
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#54183, "RE: New reference question"
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I don't think so. I have a very, very vague memory of something like that, but my mind is probably playing tricks on me. So I doubt it.



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DanaRTue Apr-12-05 08:37 PM
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#54202, "RE: New reference question"
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Im pretty sure there have been no references to any other rulers besides the Old Ones...and that was without a date...
It wouldnt make sense though for these people to be "Old Ones" because they all left and it appears Reba is an ancestor of George.

  

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slimtreeTue Apr-12-05 09:45 PM
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#54205, "RE: New reference question"
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i thought i vaguely remembered something about that too, but as it turns out i was remembering stuff about the history of other countries (galla, maren, and tyra) with respect to the dominion jewel. that's in LR, chapter 2.

  

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#54206, "RE: New reference question"
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Tue Apr-12-05 10:18 PM by Insanitys Pages

  

          

-headdesk-
It's there, I know it is, ahh... um...

Oh god, er....

-facepalm-

I know I saw someting... just.... can't…remember!
EDIT: In Trickster's Queen's prologue, it has a footnote that says Barzun was conquered by Tortall in the year 378 H.E. "Giving Jasson III of Tortall control of the eastern coastline"
Was Jasson Conte` ? I suppose that isn't long before the Alanna books, so it must be a conte`
I SWEAR I remember something....
-returns to banging head on desk-

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NikiTue Apr-12-05 10:22 PM
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#54207, "RE: New reference question"
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you never mentioned an exact date.
You did, however, name Jonathan's ancestors only back to the "Old King" Jason, who you wrote something about how he conquered lands surrounding the old Tortall.

I don't think there was canon saying Jason was the first Conte king- just that Tortall was smaller once upon a time.

No mention as far as I recall when they exactly came into power... although they are in the Book of Gold, and that's old, isn't it?

  

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#54210, "RE: New reference question"
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I don't recall a date about when the Conte's claimed the throne. However, i am now deeply intrigued. Planning on writing about it? (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! It sounds really interesting.)



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#54230, "RE: New reference question"
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Jasson is jons' granddad. the Old Ones- I think it said they stopped 3 centuaties ago.
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#54232, "RE: New reference question"
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I remember when George and Alanna were figuring out who put the bir under the saddle and who would take the throne next, I was wanting more information for who else was in the family, even if not related to the storyline. I know about Jasson, the grandad, but after that, nada.


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Tamora PierceWed Apr-13-05 03:20 PM
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#54244, "RE: New reference question"
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Fri Apr-15-05 10:09 AM by Tamora Pierce

  

          

The Conté family is in The Book of Silver, because Coram was nattering about Trebond being in The Book of Gold. The Conté family took the throne four Jonathans ago--the first Conté king was a Jonathan. That would have been about . . . um . . . 300 years ago. (The Old Ones were gone about 2500 years ago!)

The Old King, Jasson II, was Jon's grandfather, which puts his day about 90-odd years ago.

So if you folks, who have read the books more recently, don't know anything to contradict that, this means I am 100 years into the Conté reign.

And before you ask, I don't know the house who held the throne before them. I'll let you know when I think of it!

Tammy

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#54246, "RE: New reference question"
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wait so alannas family is more noble than jons... woah!

so really *if* they had married, she'd married below herself while marrying the king... awsome

  

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#54251, "RE: New reference question"
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Wed Apr-13-05 06:03 PM by moonlightrider

          

...although there's the whole Jonathon III vs. Jonathon IV thing... no, don't hit me, please.

All I remember is that royal families get their rights from the gods... which I suppose was explained in a way through Trickster.

Interesting... somehow, I always assumed the Conte line was in the Book of Gold... and I'd always thought they had held the throne for a very, very long time...

Then how old is the country of Tortall, paticularly in comparison to the royal family? I know the palace was built on Old Ones remains, but is the kingdom that old, or did some conquerer decide it would be easier that way?

Edited to add:
Speaking of the Provost's Dog books, the Dominion Jewel was in Maren two hundred years ago - any mention of that?

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#54264, "RE: New reference question"
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No,I don't belive so...hope it helps!Ask us qusetions!LOTS of questions!


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#55952, "RE: New reference question"
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Ok, i was lost past the first entry...

*thinks*

O i get it now i think ... ...

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