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alliyahWed Nov-08-06 04:35 AM
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#71203, "A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
Wed Nov-08-06 04:13 PM by alliyah

  

          

Khari made a totally win family tree. And now it's updated!




Here's the key:
grey line = speculative
dashed line = no other real connection
evereything else should be self explanatory.

Also, some notes: I'm assuming Baird is a 4+th cousin of Jon, since he's a duke, and if Tortall is based on W. Europe, Ducal Houses are blood related to the king. Mostly, I just wanted to get everyone on there. I can get Kel on, but she'd have to marry Dom or something. *nudge nudge* j/k xD


Because I'm cooler than Dahee. And she's a buttface.

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RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, Kytrine, Nov 08th 2006, #1
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, bluesalamanders, Nov 08th 2006, #2
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, Trick_the_darking, Dec 28th 2006, #32
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, Bradamante13, Nov 08th 2006, #3
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, Bradamante13, Nov 08th 2006, #4
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, nealsgirl, Nov 08th 2006, #5
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, kitheka, Nov 09th 2006, #17
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, Klioness2, Nov 08th 2006, #6
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, nealsgirl, Nov 08th 2006, #7
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!, dameragnall, Nov 09th 2006, #15
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RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, maydayp, Nov 08th 2006, #8
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, alliyah, Nov 08th 2006, #9
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, Michiru_Kaiou, Nov 08th 2006, #10
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, aliceinwonderland, Nov 10th 2006, #22
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, rivenriver, Nov 09th 2006, #11
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, Michiru_Kaiou, Nov 09th 2006, #12
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RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, layla, Nov 09th 2006, #13
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, dameragnall, Nov 09th 2006, #16
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, kulia, Nov 09th 2006, #18
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, Michiru_Kaiou, Nov 10th 2006, #21
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RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, Niki, Nov 10th 2006, #19
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, LaughingGirl, Nov 11th 2006, #24
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, Khari, Nov 11th 2006, #25
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, alliyah, Nov 12th 2006, #28
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, hiddenmagic217, Nov 12th 2006, #26
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, diamondflame, Nov 12th 2006, #27
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, alliyah, Dec 27th 2006, #29
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, nealsgirl, Dec 27th 2006, #30
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, Trick_the_darking, Dec 28th 2006, #31
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, daughter_of_moon_ocean, Dec 28th 2006, #33
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RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, sweetypea, Dec 29th 2006, #34
RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, alliyah, Dec 30th 2006, #35
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RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*, k1ng_arthur, Aug 14th 2007, #37

KytrineWed Nov-08-06 06:55 AM
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#71204, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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Wow...that's pretty sweet.

  

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bluesalamandersWed Nov-08-06 09:06 AM
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#71205, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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That square between Myles, Eleni, George, and Alanna always makes me laugh a little...

Well done! It seems very complete.

If you wanted to simplify the design a little, you could lengthen a few lines - lengthening the line from Jon/Thayet to their kids would let you put Alanna's families off to the right instead of down below, and that godparents line wouldn't be so awkward. Same with Kalasin's line - lengthening it would let Kadder's family be above him more comfortably, although so would just flipping the position of his parents and uncle.

  

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Trick_the_darkingThu Dec-28-06 06:58 AM
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#72576, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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>That square between Myles, Eleni, George, and Alanna always makes me laugh a little...
I know. and also, you might say that George's assistant marries Alanna's assistant.

"You're weird. Thank goodness."

  

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#71206, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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Wow, Baird and his wife were really gettin' busy..

-Brad

"Dust thou art, to dust returneth, was not spoken of the soul."
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Bradamante13Wed Nov-08-06 01:20 PM
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#71207, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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By the way, where did you find Alianne and Roald's kids and Vania?

But if it's in Terrier, don't tell me!

-Brad

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nealsgirlWed Nov-08-06 03:31 PM
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#71208, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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They're mentioned in previos Tammy posts.

Test what you know about Tamora Pierce's books at FunTrivia.com.

  

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kithekaThu Nov-09-06 09:47 PM
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#71244, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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Aly's kids are mentioned at:
http://www.sheroescentral.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=54497&mesg_id=54497&listing_type=search

Roald's daughter (if you mean the younger Roald, as I assume you do)is mentioned at:
http://www.sheroescentral.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=60085&mesg_id=60085&page=&topic_page=5

And finally Vania is mentioned at:
http://www.sheroescentral.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=6&topic_id=54907&mesg_id=&page=&mode=full#55368, about a fourth of the way down

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Klioness2Wed Nov-08-06 03:37 PM
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#71209, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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That's cool. I made a similar one but it's in french and I lost it.


*Leeny*

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nealsgirlWed Nov-08-06 03:37 PM
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#71210, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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Wed Nov-08-06 03:40 PM by nealsgirl

          

Fazia is definately Kaddar's mother. All I know about Ozorne is that's he's Kaddar's uncle, and I'm pretty sure Kaddar's father's name was Ghazanoi. Also, Neal definately had only two older brothers, and at least one younger brother, and definately a younger sister(mentioned in First Test). And you could include Dom if you put a grey line from Baird as his uncle. Who knows if he's Baird or his wife's blood nephew? And Neal and Yuki are going to have a daughter, mentioned at the end of Lady Knight by Irnai to Kel. By the way, excelent family tree! I've been try to make one for ages, but it never fit on paper. Oh, and Vania is also one of Thayet's ansestors. Also, there shouldn't be a grey line to Thayet's parents, we know they were Kalasin and what's-his-name the warlord.

Test what you know about Tamora Pierce's books at FunTrivia.com.

  

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#71241, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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I *think* that Ghazanoi only is fandom hypothesis based on Kaddar's middle name.

honoroficabilitudinitatibus

  

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#71257, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree!"
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That's what I thought before someone told me it was his father's name.

Test what you know about Tamora Pierce's books at FunTrivia.com.

  

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#71213, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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um, i may be wronge but i don't think that roger was a knight, even though he did take a squire. (it has been a while since i've reed in the hands of the goddes)

time shapes my fears
people set them in
but my mind lets them stay.

  

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#71215, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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Khari was pretty through, and I know that she checked what she was doing.
And even if it wasn't explicitly stated, Roger was probably a knight if he took a squire.


Because I'm cooler than Dahee. And she's a buttface.

  

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#71216, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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Wow, this one is great! Thanks!
Just one thing: you spelt Jon's name wrong, it's JonathAn, not JonathOn.

best wishes Michiru

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And the last fight let us face
The Internationale
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#71269, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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note to all: roger of conte is a knight. it says so in atfa and ithotg. just to clear it up!

  

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#71219, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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:D That's really neat! Well done!

I don't think Roger is a knight either though - it doesn't fit with his character, and also it seems like you can only pick one or the other, not both knight and sorceror. But, the whole Alex-squire thing... I guess it's for each person to decide.

Nice Job!!!


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#71220, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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>>>I don't think Roger is a knight either though<<<

You and maydayp are right, citation from "In the Hand of the Goddess":
"That he was a sorcerer and not a trained knight..."

best wishes Michiru

Then come comrades rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale
Unites the human race.

  

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#71233, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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Yes, that occured to me not long after I posted.


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#71229, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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I really liked it!! Kudos to you for making it
~leyla
Warrior+fiery night+gypsy=
Kickbutt Irish dancer

And i am still singin', good times,good times


Thanks a lot to suze_jesse

  

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#71242, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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I think you should indicate that Baird is MORE speculatively connected to the Contés than the rest of the tree.

Because an old ducal line is very likely to have once been an independant principality, and not a cadet branch of the royal family.

honoroficabilitudinitatibus

  

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#71247, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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Ya know... that is just brilliant. It really helps me keep things STRAIGHT! I wish we could get Kel on it... or Daine and Numair. dammit, their kids all need to start hooking up, like in the royal complicatedness thread! HA!

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#71267, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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Fri Nov-10-06 05:57 PM by Michiru_Kaiou

          

>>>or Daine and Numair.<<<

That would even be possible, since both are referred to as the adopted aunt and uncle of Alanna's kids!

And Emry of Haryse could be added, since he is the maternal grandfather of Neal. Of course if you chose not to delete the Queenscoves.

best wishes Michiru

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#71278, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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Emry of Haryse was the only one I could see missing - it's a really good job

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#71252, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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mmmm very nice. i am impressed. the colour makes it pretty. yes, am amused by small things

what is it that they say about small minds?


Nisi mecum concubueris, phobistae vicerint.

  

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#71281, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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That's pretty nifty.

Thanks for posting it.

~Audrey

  

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KhariSat Nov-11-06 06:44 PM
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#71290, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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...I'm just dropping in briefly to say:

UPDATED!

(Also, I'm not going to delete the Queenscove branch, if only because I want Neal to stay on the tree)

Thanks for the comments, Anything else? Together, we can make it really thorough...and maybe it will be pinned!

  

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#71322, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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Updated?


Because I'm cooler than Dahee. And she's a buttface.

  

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#71298, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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Whoa. That's pretty looking.

  

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#71307, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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FUNKY! (goddess i'm corny)
Can I copy it and put it up on my wal? Is that breaching anything legal guys? Promise i wont make people pay to see it or anything!
NEVER a Dollanganger

  

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alliyahWed Dec-27-06 04:30 PM
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#72562, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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Bump.


Because I'm cooler than Dahee. And she's a buttface.

  

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nealsgirlWed Dec-27-06 04:39 PM
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#72565, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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I was just re-reading a couple of the books and there was a Jonathan I and a Baird III.

And we know that Neal and Yuki are going to have a girl, Irnai fortold it in LK.

Test what you know about Tamora Pierce's books at FunTrivia.com.

  

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#72575, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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>she'd have to marry Dom or something.
where's Dom on there?

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#72587, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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He's not, probably because we don't know if he's a cousin on Neal's dad's side or on his mom's. I think what she's saying is that Kel could be put on the tree if she married Dom, and his parentage could just be guessed at, but presently it's not worth it. Or something.



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#78318, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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I'm pretty sure Dom is the son of Baird's sister. He has the same nose as Neal, who has the same nose as Baird (I think) but since their fiefs are different, I suppose it would be logical to assume that Baird's sister married into Masbolle and had Dom.

  

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#72591, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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i love it
it totally helps
thanks a lot
smil

  

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#72692, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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I'm glad!


Because I'm cooler than Dahee. And she's a buttface.

  

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#78259, "RE: A Tortall Noble Family Tree! *Mild Spoilers*"
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wow this is really great !
so accurate, too.
and pretty looking.
good job

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Blueberry the DarkingTue Aug-14-07 10:22 PM
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Revive 'Fans!!!

  

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k1ng_arthurTue Aug-14-07 08:26 PM
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Neal has dead older brothers.


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